Responsible
Breeder |
Dog
maker
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Knows
well the breed with all advantages and disadvantages, and speaks
openly about them to visitors. Knows breed-specific health problems.
His/her dogs are all tested and free of breed-specific hereditary
diseases, stud dogs are selected on health requirements as well.
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Does
not really know the breed. Frequenlty, has no idea about breed-specific
health/genetic problems, so stud dogs are not selected based on
them.
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Takes
precautions, is careful to avoid diseases at puppies so visitors
must take off their shoes, wash hands etc. before meeting the
pups. If the puppies can go outside, visitors might be asked not
to enter into their area.
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No
precautions at all, would give the pups in our hands.
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The
price of a pup differ by breed of course, and a breed in fashion
is more expensive. A (leonberger) puppy from a well known kennel
with show/breeding quality might be even 150-300 thousand Forint
(~600-1200 EUR). In general, under 120-130 thHUF (~480-520 EUR)
we cannot expect a (leonberger) quality puppy. Just think about
it: a good breeder would spend a lot of money on the mother dog
(dam), her show career, tests, breeding test, and would travel
1500-2000 kms for a selected stud male, paying a lot for the mating.
Then feeds the mother dog with premium food, the puppies get maximal
treatment after their birth, the breeder would not spare on them,
plus the veterinary treatments, tatoo/chip, pedigree and pet passport.
In
Hungary, leonberger breeding is not specifically regulated, it
is handled by the general breeding rules of MEOE
Hungarian Kennel Club. MEOE
general rules are not identical with internationally recognized
German
type breeding regulations and expectations of the Leonberger
Union.
Actual
costs occurring when breeding leonbergers (based on previous litters'
average data of a litter of 8 puppies, on 2005 year prices):
Costs of parents:
- Parents' breeding test: 5000 HUF (20 EUR) + travel costs (German
type breeding test ZTP is proposed for the same price in Hungary)
- Parents' show results: in Hungary, 3-7000 HUF/dog/show (12-28
EUR), abroad: 40-70 EUR/show/dog + travel costs
- Health examinations and tests: HD (hip dysplasia), elbow, and
shoulder test, eyes tests, heart scanning: 18.000 HUF (72 EUR)
- German type Dentition document (documenting the number and status
of teeth by 3 different special judges (complete, correct scissor
byte is best)): 1000 HUF (4 EUR)
Mating
costs:
- In Hungary: 80.000-150.000 HUF (320-600 EUR)
- Abroad: travel costs + 50-500 EUR/mating + 50-80 EUR/puppies
born alive
Veterinary
costs of the dam (mother dog) at birth:
- Vet check: 5000 HUF (20 EUR)
- If complications: up to 20.000 HUF (80 EUR)
Food
and vitamins for the dam from mating till the age of 8 weeks of
the pups (total 4 months): minimum 50-80.000 HUF (200-320 EUR)
Taking
care of the puppies until at least 8 weeks of age (at an average
litter of 8 puppies, with wholesale prices when possible):
- Vaccinations (3x anti-worms, 2x vaccines): 9-11.000 HUF (36-44
EUR)
- Pedigree and tatoo/chip: 4.500 HUF/puppy (18 EUR/puppy)
- Export pedigree: apart from Pedigree, an extra 8.000 HUF/puppy
(32 EUR/puppy) (total: 12.500 HUF/puppy (50 EUR/puppy) travelling
abroad)
- Pet Passport: 3-5.000 HUF/puppy (12-20 EUR/puppy)
- Communication costs (advertisements, phone calls, internet):
40-50.000 HUF/litter (160-200 EUR/litter)
- Puppy milk: 17.500 x 3 = 52.500 HUF/litter (210 EUR/litter)
- Building complex into the Puppy milk: 20.000 HUF (80 EUR)
- Starter food: 22-30.000 HUF (88-120 EUR)
- Vitamins: 15.000 HUF (60 EUR)
- Utilities, cleaning costs: 20-40.000 HUF/litter (80-160 EUR)
- Breeders' time, waking up every 2 and 3 hours in the middle
of the night, socialization, play, keeping the puppies clean:
unpayable...
ATTENTION!
DO NOT BUY A PUPPY WITHOUT GOOD GENETIC AND HEALTH BACKGROUND
AND EXPORT PEDIGREE!
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For
a dog maker, the only objective is to produce a litter at minimal
costs, even by overcharging the mum dog. In these kennels a (leonberger)
puppy can be bought at about 50-90 thHUF (~200-360 EUR).
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Ask
questions to potential future owners. Is interested where and
how the puppy will live, who will take care of it, who will go
out with it etc.
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Does
not ask questions concerning the puppy's future, thosw who have
the money can take the pup.
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Gives
advises to visitors concerning best methods to house training,
training, socialization, healthcare etc. Has extended knowledge
on dog- and breed-related topics.
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Has
his/her own opinion on topics not necessarily converging to expert's
opinions. Does not read articles, does not train him/herself on
dog-related issues.
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Can
give references if we ask.
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Cannot
give references, does not even know where his/her puppies are.
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Knows
well the puppy's ancestors.
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Apart
from the sire and dam, has no idea about the ancestors in the
pedigree.
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Is
ready to show the puppy's parents, if the sire does not live in
the yard, shows photos about him.
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Would
not or is unwilling to show the parents. If we can see the parents,
they are too agressive or too shy.
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Dogs
are well socialized, friendly, it can be seen that people spend
time with them.
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Dogs
are shy, maybe agressive, they are not trained.
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(S)he
breeds to have better and better dogs, to improve the bloodline
and the breed
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(S)he
breeds to purely make money.
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Litters
are made only from time to time, breeding is not a business, quality
is more important than quantity.
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Puppies
are available continuously, frequently produces litters for dog
dealers (proudly says if we ask that pups go to Italy or The Netherlands)
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Only
qualified dogs are used for breeding that meet the breed standard.
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Dogs
bred rarely meet breed standard and/or prescribed health tests.
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Only
balanced dogs are used for breeding with good nervous system.
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Parent
dogs are frequently shy or agressive.
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Only
dogs after their 2 years can be bred, litters are limited.
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Even
young dogs are bred, using consequent heat periods.
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Stud
dogs are selected based on quality, the breeder is ready to go
to the other end of the country or abroad to bring the mum dog
to the stud dog, spending time, money and energy (even if the
breeder has stud dog at home, would use it from time to time only).
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Stud dogs are selected based on comfort and spenditure minimalization
(should be cheap and close, (s)he would use own males at home).
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Necessary
tests are all done (may differ by breed, mostly hip dysplasia
and eye tests)
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Tests
are not done (they are expensive), may breed with (latently) sick
dogs.
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Potential
puppy owners get on a waiting list.
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Puppies
are advertised after birth in local newspaper. In Hungary, in
the "Dog" monthly newspaper we can see many suspicious
ads. Beware of expressions like "continuously available"
or "puppy for electronic article" etc.
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A
contract has to be signed, sometimes we get guarantee (with usually
a higher price).
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No
paperwork needed, we don't even have to say our name - no matter
where the pup will go, just pay the price.
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Keeps
as many dogs as much time and money (s)he has - and most importantly
as many (s)he can love. Dogs are clean, seemingly healthy and
with a good mood.
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Kennels
are usually overhelmed, dogs are neglected. Dogs are frequently
ill, they seem sad.
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Gives
good/premium quality food for puppies and adults.
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Gives
cheap, low quality food to the dogs, even the pups get adult food.
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Puppies
are left with their mum till the age of minimum 8-10 weeks. During
this period, puppies learn a lot from their mum and siblings.
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As
early as 6 weeks of age, puppies can be taken and the dog maker
assures us "they eat independently".
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Pup
socialization is important, puppies are frequently in human hands,
they know different objects and sounds. They are used to get brushed/cleaned,
teeth are checked, sometimes show training has started.
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Apart
from feeding and cleaning the pups, (s)he would not spend time
with them. Many times pups are afraid and run away of unkown people
and sounds.
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Would
not give two pups at a time to a newby (beginner) dog owner.
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"Two
at a time" - that's the easiest.
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Goes
to dogshows, dog training school, other dog-related events.
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Does
not go to dog school nor show or breeding tests.
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Is
a member of a dog organisation, kennel club.
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Is
not really interested in "dog world."
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The
quality of his/her dogs is proven by show and breeding test results,
(in case of working dogs) their aptitude for work.
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Even
if the dogs are pure-bred, their quality is questionable since
it has never been tested.
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There
are many champion (or working) ancestors on the puppy's pedigree,
the breeder would never breed nor sell puppies without pedigree.
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There
are hardly any champions on the puppy's pedigree - if the puppy
has pedigree at all.
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Supports
dog refuges/homes, is aware of his/her own activities to create
more dogs this is why is rigorous in selecting future owners
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Believes
that by selling all pups, (s)he would not increase the number
of dogs in dog homes.
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Is
continuously interested in the wellbeing of the dogs from his/her
kennel, collects information on health problems, is in contact
with the new owner.
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After
selling, is not interested in the puppy anymore.
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Offers
his/her help and gives advice any time for those who ask.
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The
maximum is a "Good bye" or maybe "Good luck".
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Rarely
repeats litters (with the same sire and dam, only for reach extremely
good quality again)
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Frequently
repeats litters (using cheap stud dogs nearby).
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